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#41 Slim

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:32 PM

I would have done just the same if I was a copper and a big powerful animal jumped at me.

 

Yes, that's why we don't arm the police.



#42 chemistry1973

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:43 PM

Was the dog's owner arrested?

 

Yes.

 

The Hawthorn PD says it arrested Rosby because he interfered in a police operation with his “loud, distracting music (from the individual’s vehicle), and his intentional walking within close proximity to armed Officers, while holding an 80-pound Rottweiler on a long leash-line … created an increasingly dangerous situation and demanded officers’ focus away from the matter at hand.”



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Posted 10 July 2013 - 04:08 PM

Yes, that's why we don't arm the police.

 

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#44 A Rebel and a Runner

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Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:54 PM

I think his point is that with unarmed police, the odd instance where the officer being unarmed results in harm to the officer is in the minority compared to the times when officers who are armed (See: America) unnecessarily harm people or animals.

Statistically speaking, our police are involved in more deadly altercations, and very many of them don't need to be deadly.


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#45 Moving Target

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:08 AM

Yes, that's why we don't arm the police.

 

Actually, we do arm some of them.  By the time CO19 arrived to shoot the dog, it could have mauled several Officers.



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Posted 11 July 2013 - 10:23 PM

Actually, we do arm some of them.  By the time CO19 arrived to shoot the dog, it could have mauled several Officers.


We do, and while I understand the need for a specialist firearms-trained section, it's a shame. How many times have several police officers been mauled by a dog? In the same scenario, CO19 would not have been called upon.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:15 AM


We do, and while I understand the need for a specialist firearms-trained section, it's a shame. How many times have several police officers been mauled by a dog? In the same scenario, CO19 would not have been called upon.

 

I can think of a recent instance where several Officers were bitten before CO19 arrived and slotted the animal.

 

I don't want British Police to be exposed to a dangerous dog and have no means of defending themselves.  Perhaps they could taser it or CS-spray it.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:05 PM

I think it's a shame ANYONE needs to have guns at all.  But even in Britain, they're learning there's situations where you DO.  And I love it when you woobies compare crime statistics between the U.S. and the U.K.  Apples and Oranges, guys.  Our crime is different, and more violent than yours. It's a shame that it is, but it is.  Get over it.  rolleyesOrig.gif


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:29 PM

Anything can and will be weaponized if used by a desperate person.  A car, a dog, a knife, anything.  Police, if they are more than just the clean-up crew, should be armed.  Otherwise they truly are just on clean up detail.  LEO in general, are more the clean-up crew and that is why people are responsible for their own self-defense.  They aren't there when it's happening, they are there when it's over or mostly over.

 

As for the dog shooting, it could have been avoided.  More training on both the owner and police's part could make a lot of these situations end less sadly.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:52 PM

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#51 Phalanx

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 11:16 AM

As disturbing as that was to watch,  I would have done the same thing if I was the cop.

 

The dog was only trying to ptotect his master, but he lunged at the cop and he defended himself.

 

Things happend very quickly once the dog was out of the car, so I don't know that there would have been time to let the guy put the dog back into the car.

 

What I don't get, is why did the cops single out that one guy?  There were plenty of other people there filming.  At one point there was another guy filming right next to him.






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