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#1 Three Eyes

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Posted 24 July 2018 - 08:26 AM

The arrangement and instrumentation for Billy Joel's "Just The Way You Are" are pretty obviously influenced by 10cc's "I'm Not In Love."

 

 


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 09:00 PM

I know both those songs very well but I'd never seen a similarity before. But when those ethereal background vocals start in Just The Way You Are, yes I can hear it. In fact it's blatant. Can't believe I never noticed it before actually.



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Posted 24 July 2018 - 09:21 PM

I never did either until last night. Thought I'd make a thread out of it.


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Posted 25 July 2018 - 12:07 AM

The backing vocals hold and don’t change for a full two measures despite the obvious melody change. When you think they should modulate up or down they both just hold on longer than you’d expect. Good one!

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 12:53 AM

Also, the swirling strings at the beginning of the sax solo put me in the mind of Lennon's "Number 9 Dream." Then they segue into Al Stewart's "Year of the Cat." Not copy jobs, mind you, just impressions. 


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Posted 25 July 2018 - 05:23 AM

I don't know a lot about about Roxy Music so I was shocked to learn "Love is the Drug" was released in 1975. It must have influenced countless new wave and new romantic acts. 

 

 

Not only that, Bryan Ferry's sauve international man persona seems to have been just as influential on the images of later bands working in the style.

 

The songs on these albums also cemented Ferry's persona as the epitome of the suave, jaded Euro-sophisticate. Although this persona undoubtedly began as a deliberately ironic device, during the mid-1970s it seemed to merge with Ferry's real life, as the working-class miner's son from the north of England became an international rock star and an icon of male style.


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Posted 25 July 2018 - 01:36 PM





http://youtube.com/watch?v=KXpJ0bM5zbM

My favorite thing about the 80s, after obscenely gated snare drums.

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 01:40 PM

This one was always glaring to me.





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Posted 25 July 2018 - 01:50 PM

I don't know a lot about about Roxy Music so I was shocked to learn "Love is the Drug" was released in 1975. It must have influenced countless new wave and new romantic acts.



Not only that, Bryan Ferry's sauve international man persona seems to have been just as influential on the images of later bands working in the style.

The songs on these albums also cemented Ferry's persona as the epitome of the suave, jaded Euro-sophisticate. Although this persona undoubtedly began as a deliberately ironic device, during the mid-1970s it seemed to merge with Ferry's real life, as the working-class miner's son from the north of England became an international rock star and an icon of male style.


Certainly see that influence in Duran Duran's "Girls on Film" NOTE Video is NSFW


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Posted 25 July 2018 - 03:13 PM

^^
Throw the Thin White Duke in there for good measure.

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Posted 25 July 2018 - 08:49 PM

Japan were a big favourite of mine, Bryan Ferry was a very big influence on them after the first two glam rock records (which I also like a lot, as well).

 

His ex-wife shot herself on Monday. Most unfortunate.



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Posted 25 July 2018 - 09:00 PM

Certainly see that influence in Duran Duran's "Girls on Film" NOTE Video is NSFW

 

Practically their entire career.


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Posted 26 July 2018 - 02:49 AM

Practically their entire career.

 

Yes.  I think they basically took "Love is the Drug" funkified it a bit more, added some newer synths, and another distortion pedal on the guitar and you've pretty much got it.



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Posted 26 July 2018 - 03:37 AM

"A Whiter Shade of Pale" has a similar aura, shall we say, to Bach's "Air on the G String." This isn't something I noticed on my own. Just read about it in an article about the former song's enduring quality.

 

 

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 08:20 AM

French music artist Serge Gainsbourg recorded a song called "Je t'aime… moi non plus" in 1967. He co-sang it with Brigitte Bardot. He had her make some very hot and heavy sounds on the recording. When her German husband at the time heard the track he got angry and demanded the single not be released. He got his wish. However, two years later, Gainsbourg was able to recruit English actress and girlfriend Jane Birkin to take on Bardot's part and, as with Bardot, had her mimic the sounds of an orgasm. It was released in 1969. The Bardot version eventually got released in 1986. Here's the Bardot version.

 

 

Now here's the 1969 Jane Birkin version.

 

 

"A Whiter Shade of Pale" with its famous Hammond organ part became a worldwide hit in 1967. Here it is.

 

 

Listen to the organ sound between the initially unreleased 1967 Bardot version of "Je t'aime… moi non plus" and the 1969 Birkin version. The Birkin version was re-recorded two years after "A Whiter Shade of Pale" and now had a very similar organ sound to the Procol Harum song whereas the first version's organ didn't sound so much like it or at least was more buried in the mix. 


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