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The Last Jedi (SPOILERS) - my comprehensive review


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#1 chemistry1973

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:26 PM

It was a steaming pile of bantha turds.

#2 Pariah Dawg

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:28 PM

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#3 chemistry1973

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:29 PM

Dammit ! Got me before I could change it.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:47 PM

It was a steaming pile of bantha poodoo.

*fixed*



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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:39 PM

I actually enjoyed it. Eventful. Pacing like A New Hope which may drive some people nuts. I like the storytelling to happen before the action starts. Without that it’s like every modern action flick. Mark Hammil gave a great performance as the cantankerous Luke. No, it wasn’t the Luke everyone expected. That’s why people are trashing this movie. It could have gone a million different ways but as Luke says in the movie to Rey, “This is not going to go the way you think.”

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 02:49 AM

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Didn't see it.


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Posted 31 December 2017 - 09:11 AM

I didn't see it and I don't plan to.  Because of my back problems, I can't sit in a theatre for more than 2 hours.  


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Posted 31 December 2017 - 07:51 PM

I enjoyed it because it was way different than what I was expecting.  Would I have done things differently?  YES!  But that again is what made it fun.  Aside from the, "Can you hear me now" joke and Mary Poppins...


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Posted 31 December 2017 - 08:27 PM

For the first time in 40 years of viewing Star Wars movies/shows, I have no idea how to feel about it. I didn't hate it, but I definitely didn't like it either.



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:30 PM

*Major Spoilers*

 

 

I thought the movie was good overall, with some very obvious flaws.  I actually found it to be very much equal parts Empire (the good half) and Attack Of The Clones (the bad half). I seem to be the only person in the galaxy who expected exactly that from Luke.  We knew he was in self-imposed seclusion, we knew his new Jedi Academy ended horrifically; why did anyone expect he was going to be kindly Yoda Mark II?  Was he just sitting there waiting for someone to ask him to be a hero again so he could leap back into the fray?  Hamill actually delivered what I consider to be the finest piece of acting the franchise has ever seen, thought he was excellent and the highlight of the movie.  And let's face it, they're trying to set up a future for the franchise that doesn't include the cast of the original trilogy.

 

What I'm having a hard time swallowing is how Rian Johnson *seems* to snub the fans by basically dismissing the two great mysteries set up by The Force Awakens.  Who is Rey, and who is Snoke?  Derivative as that movie was, TFA recaptures the feel and spirit of a classic Star Wars film, and distinctly gives us two things to obsess over, the mysterious backgrounds of a new hero and a new villain.  Johnson went out of his way to give a big middle finger to that.  Of course the internet is already abuzz with the idea that of course Kylo Ren would lie to Rey to manipulate her, crush her spirit...  So yeah, The Last Jedi can probably redeem itself of much of its criticism if it addresses those two mysteries in the third installment, particularly the Rey thing.  I still fall deeply into the *Rey is a Kenobi* camp, and as they're in talks with Ewan McGregor about a solo Obi Wan film, keeping that mystery alive might have been a very calculated move.



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:51 PM

I thought it was a disaster. The plot was barely existent. There were scenes (the casino) and characters (rose, Laura Dern’s character) that we’re superflous and.or completely redundant. We had Chewbacca, and Leia, but we needed extra unimportant characters.

Luke was under-utilized, and ruined. Talk about a buzzkill at the end. Lamest death I have ever seen - they completely squandered any opportunity to continue Luke’s story. The assumption that his needed to end, and to make room for a new generation is so trite and lame.

Rey remains 1 dimensional. No new information. And we don’t see the growth and results from Luke’s training (gotta avoid those mansplanations!)

Finn is wasted and his fight with the clone trooper is ridiculous.

And what the fuck. The first order was dealt a serious blow at the conclusion of 7. What changed at the beginning of 8? How did the first order regain all that power?

And who are the knights of ren? What happened? Why leave that off screen, but then show us a half hour of casino hijinks?

The movie was almost too dumb for words.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:21 PM

Apparently Laura Dern's character, Amilyn Holdo, figures heavily into Leia's/the Rebellion's backstory in the books that are considered canon.  The character was an awkward nod to include non-film canon material, and yes I said awkward :P .  The casino scene was indeed the worst part of the movie, very reminiscent of Obi Wan's *detective work* segments in Attack Of The Clones, a total waste of valuable screen time.  And although it was (again) awkward, time leaps forward between Star Wars movies with no explanation of events between is a pretty common *plot device* in the franchise.



#13 chemistry1973

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:32 PM

AND GAWD THAT YODA SCENE.

Did they decide to cram that in there last minute?! Because yoda looked about as bad and cartoonish as he did in Clones. Not to mention that force ghosts can now render real world damage with the force.

Looking forward to the ghosts of Luke and Vader fighting in the next movie. (Maybe that’s a good idea)

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:35 PM

If I had to sum up my biggest criticism of the movie, and knowing they're taking the franchise into *uncharted territory*, it felt a little too much like they were making shit up as they went along.  Part of me wishes they had stuck to the outline George Lucas gave them, at least in terms of the major story arcs.  It seems wrong that they didn't even try to stick to the original vision and wrap up *his story* before moving the franchise forward.



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:37 PM

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 02:00 PM

If I had to sum up my biggest criticism of the movie, and knowing they're taking the franchise into *uncharted territory*, it felt a little too much like they were making shit up as they went along.  Part of me wishes they had stuck to the outline George Lucas gave them, at least in terms of the major story arcs.  It seems wrong that they didn't even try to stick to the original vision and wrap up *his story* before moving the franchise forward.

 

I think the problem with Lucas' vision is that he doesn't expect to put in the 30 years of movies that Disney plans to.  Disney will put out a Star Wars movie every year.  They will do more TV, etc.  The universe has got to expand, backwards and forwards to make them realize their plans.  They are probably going to reboot the original trilogy in five years anyway.  They'll connect backstories to current lead characters like Rey, Ben, Poe and Finn as they do that for sure.   Follow what's happening with DC and Marvel and that's what is going to be happening with Star Wars.  This is only the beginning.






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