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#41 Pressure/Hopenosis

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 10:40 PM

What if he were a Christian Arab?

Then he'd celebrate Christmas?


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Posted 24 May 2017 - 11:13 AM

PJW for the win. It's time the soft Brits wake up.

 

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 02:26 PM

Mosque attended by Manchester bomber declares, "Attack was merely a response to the war against Islam."

 

No statement about the horror of the attack. No statement on the evil of it. Tell me again about the all the moderates having an impact on their brothers? Close the mosques. Send them back. Problem solved.


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Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:24 PM

The Home Secretary has chastised Washington. US networks released details of the bomber before the Police were ready to make arrests. Thus the element of surprise was lost,and some of the bomber's associates could have gone to ground.

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 04:19 PM

No Barriers, No Borders, We All Just Need to Co-Exist' - Katie Perry (from inside her gated mansion in Beverly Hills.)
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Posted 24 May 2017 - 04:46 PM

I know what Katie means. That we should look for what is common to us all, not what is different..... love is the opposite of fear, and love can fix this problem but it has to be tough love, rigorously asserting British Liberal values in the classroom and the workplace and the church and the mosque, challenging bigotry while informing on suspicious behaviour: not the fluffy bunny love of turning your FB avatar into le Tricoleur for a week, saying a prayer and then doing nothing.

Turns out that the bomber's imam gave a sermon condemning ISIL and terrorist jihadis, and the bomber looked at him with hate in his eyes. OK imam, and you didn't report this to the police WHY?

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 04:50 PM

For fear of turning up dead. As for looking for what is common, it's pretty hard to do that when so many groups are working very hard to set themselves apart. LGBTQCA, etc, blacks, liberals, conservatives, Christians, Jews, Muslims, and on and on.


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Posted 24 May 2017 - 05:23 PM

I know what Katie means. That we should look for what is common to us all, not what is different..... love is the opposite of fear, and love can fix this problem but it has to be tough love, rigorously asserting British Liberal values in the classroom and the workplace and the church and the mosque, challenging bigotry while informing on suspicious behaviour: not the fluffy bunny love of turning your FB avatar into le Tricoleur for a week, saying a prayer and then doing nothing.

Turns out that the bomber's imam gave a sermon condemning ISIL and terrorist jihadis, and the bomber looked at him with hate in his eyes. OK imam, and you didn't report this to the police WHY?

 

We've only had the whole of human history and this does not work. The history of humanity is the history of war. It is just empty sentiment. The strong will always look to dominate the weak and Islam is the perfect cover.

 

How many more Brits need to die before you realize that the UK's experiment to integrate those who have no interest in integrating has failed? 100? 2000? 30,000? Or until you're the last white Brit left? It's sheer insanity. Nature is cruel. And the strong are eating the weak. What has to happen for you to advocate for the weak and their ability to protect themselves by any means necessary? 

 

You may have some nice religious Muslim friends who think Mecca Mohammed was the prophet to emulate. I get that. But there is a far greater number that follow Medina Mohammed, the political leader, and are advocates of political Islam. That is the problem. It is not a religion to many, but rather, a political force that exists to bring its enemies into submission. Until you realize the war is with political Islam, you won't see the problem for what it is and any suggestion you make will not be effective. You have to know your enemy in order to effectively fight your enemy.


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Posted 24 May 2017 - 05:37 PM

I don't completely agree GW but you make a strong argument.

With all their power of love and peaceful resolution, so many figures, from Christ to MLK, were murdered.

There does come a time to fight.
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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:06 PM

I know what Katie means. That we should look for what is common to us all, not what is different..... love is the opposite of fear, and love can fix this problem but it has to be tough love, rigorously asserting British Liberal values in the classroom and the workplace and the church and the mosque, challenging bigotry while informing on suspicious behaviour: not the fluffy bunny love of turning your FB avatar into le Tricoleur for a week, saying a prayer and then doing nothing.

Turns out that the bomber's imam gave a sermon condemning ISIL and terrorist jihadis, and the bomber looked at him with hate in his eyes. OK imam, and you didn't report this to the police WHY?

 

She even kissed a girl and she liked it.


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#51 GhostWriter

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:08 PM

I don't completely agree GW but you make a strong argument.

With all their power of love and peaceful resolution, so many figures, from Christ to MLK, were murdered.

There does come a time to fight.

 

I think we can all exercise love to our neighbour as individuals, but that is not the function of gov't. It's primary function is the protection of its citizens. And I think to do that you need to identify the enemy looking to cause you harm and defend yourselves by any means necessary. Only one side sees this as a massive cultural war and it's not us.

 

I recently read through the Sira and a commentary on it. While in Mecca, Mohammed preached his more peaceful message for 13 years and garnered only 150 followers. He then moved on to Medina and changed his message to a political one and became a warlord; ransacking, raping, and beheading (800 Jews in one day alone, and this is the "prophet" who is the perfect Muslim that others are to emulate) and preaching the submission of his enemies. After 9 years of spreading his political message in Medina the entire Arab world followed him as he brought all their enemies into submission. That is Islam; the Islam that is powerful and appealing today and the one we should be fighting against. 

 

Let a Muslim peacefully go to the mosque, say his prayers, and live his life. But as soon as they start agitating for Sharia, or want accommodation for some of their peculiar beliefs, the West has to resist because this is part of the cultural jihad that Muslims are waging. They fully admit they are using our virtue of tolerance against us. What happens when Muslims reach 20 or 30% of a population in the West? It will be ugly.


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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:22 PM

And this is why we will lose.....

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:28 PM

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:44 PM

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:46 PM

How to embed tweets?

 

You had the right link the second time


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#56 The Enemy Within

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 10:14 PM

 Close the mosques. Send them back. Problem solved.

 

Just to clarify, are you are advocating the compulsory deportation of all Muslims from "western/christian" nations?

 

If so, can you give everyone a brief outline of how you envisage this policy being legally implemented and after completion the way would peacefully maintain religious and cultural segregation/apartheid globally?


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#57 Moving Target

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 11:34 AM

I don't completely agree GW but you make a strong argument.

With all their power of love and peaceful resolution, so many figures, from Christ to MLK, were murdered.

There does come a time to fight.

Eh? Those men brought about social change through not fighting. Imagine if MLK or Gandhi had led an armed insurrection. Completely counterproductive!

In any case I do not see how this relates to the Manchester incident.
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Posted 25 May 2017 - 12:42 PM

Just to clarify, are you are advocating the compulsory deportation of all Muslims from "western/christian" nations?

 

If so, can you give everyone a brief outline of how you envisage this policy being legally implemented and after completion the way would peacefully maintain religious and cultural segregation/apartheid globally?

 

Accept no more immigration. Send all back who have not been background checked and received official papers. Close all the mosques that even hint at any anti-Western sentiment. Ban the burka and coverings. Those that don't attempt to assimilate get sent back to their country of origin. Break up the ghettos. Severely restrict travel to certain countries. It's a start. 

 

It's a cultural war so short of violence, which will eventually come if nothing is done, these things are a start. My solution is a humanitarian, non-violent solution. Islam and the West cannot co-exist peacefully. They never have.


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Posted 25 May 2017 - 02:00 PM

Read the whole thing. Ample reasons to reject the Leftist/Islamic alliance and why they are strange totalitarian bedfellows....

 

There are many misconceptions about Islam that need to be understood. The primary goal of Islam remains from the teaching of Muhammad–to create the "Islamic kingdom of God on Earth." The goal is not negotiable. There is no compromise. The aim of the Islamic movement is to bring about somewhere in the world a new society wholeheartedly committed to the teachings of Islam in their totality and to strive to abide by those teachings in its government, political, economic and social organizations, its relation with other states, its educational system and moral values, and all other aspects of its way of life. The approach will be triple pronged jihad militarily through the sword, economic control and cultural influence.
 
Most apologists for Islam accept these misconceptions as fact in attempting to assign Western and/or Christian doctrines and values to Islam. In doing so they fail to recognize the origins of the next global world war. Such a war may not be fought and won or lost militarily on the battlefield but in the boardrooms of corporations and banks, the media, schools and government councils. The battle will not be just with Islamism but the combined forces of the Leftist/Marxist — Islamist Alliance promoting a totalitarian ideology equally powerful to prior forces of communism and fascism.
 
Winning in the current war between the combined forces of the Hezbaollah acting as pawns for Syria and Iran against Israel is not simply the winning of daily tactical military battles. The war must be won in its totality. In asymmetric wars, as are currently being fought; the war must be won not only on the battlefields but also in the political, economic and ideological arena. It is these non-military battles that the Leftist/Marxist — Islamist Alliance is concentrating their firepower. The events have taken the battlefield globally, as we will see even down the youngsters at the Atlanta-area Islamic Center and the War Resisters Support Campaign in Toronto. Events occurring in Atlanta and/or Toronto are equally significant to the strategic outcome of Lebanon-Hezbollah conflict. A loss in the Lebanon-Hezbollah conflict would form the basis and model for subsequent duplication among the forces against freedom and liberty.
 
American reliance on the Kautilya principle–often described as an Arab saying (my enemy's enemy is my friend)  in the Middle East has led us, not once but regularly, to choose to ally with (or at least deal with) Islamists of various stripes because they were the potential enemies both of International Communism and of Secular Pan-Arab nationalism. It is this same reliance that leads the Leftists and Marxist to join with the Islamists against the priciples of freedom and liberty.

 

Reason enough to not take Ronnie, Reb, and MT very seriously when they speak about Islam.


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Posted 25 May 2017 - 05:02 PM

Turns out that a young Muslim woman had shopped this perp to the security services under the Prevent Strategy, telling them he was talking about jihadism, but MI5 didn't follow it up quickly enough this time.
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