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#1 chemistry1973

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:57 PM

Rachel Maddow says she has them.

https://twitter.com/...795163664089089

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 02:51 AM

Who cares? Is Drumpf going to resign in embarrassment? So what if he hasn't paid any taxes unless he's done something illegal to accomplish that?


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 03:16 AM

The lefties think there is something to be found.

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 03:36 AM

The lefties think there is something to be found.

 

They also think that they can accomplish something productive by protesting the election or stop people from dressing as Storm Troopers at a Star Wars themed class reunion or manipulating the primaries and caucuses to ensure Hillary got the nomination. I could go on but you get the point.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 06:33 AM

Lol. Possibly scooped by Trump himself.

Paid almost twice as much as Bernie.

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 07:08 AM

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Hey there goes Alex. He's loaded with money. Wow he's really set himself up great.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 01:41 PM

Bigly fail for Maddow. Reminiscent of Geraldo Rivera's reveal of Al Capone's vault.
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Posted 15 March 2017 - 02:40 PM

The tax release is political b.s. and really doesn't amount to much.  Your taxes go to the IRS, a government agency.  They pour over these records with a fine tooth comb and determine if what you are saying there is truthful.  If there is any violation of any kind, do you think that something would be made of it?  In other words, making someone's tax records a public record merely allows one's opposition to find fodder to sensationalize something which is already legal anyway?  There's no big revelation.  Nothing to see here, regardless.  They aren't secret.  There are many people who have seen his tax records at the IRS and his own tax attorneys.  Were there something substantive, he'd already be behind bars.  That's why I don't make a big deal of it.  We need substantive information about a candidate.  I just don't feel a 1040 of a head of a corporation tells you much.  Most of what Trump did in his business are in the public record already.  It's not like he worked at a gas station.


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Posted 15 March 2017 - 03:01 PM

Bigly fail for Maddow. Reminiscent of Geraldo Rivera's reveal of Al Capone's vault.


I thought the same thing.
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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:10 PM

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:28 PM

Bigly fail for Maddow. Reminiscent of Geraldo Rivera's reveal of Al Capone's vault.


Only Geraldo obviously didn't know the contents (or lack thereof) ahead of time.

Madcow was fully aware of what she had and pressed forward anyway.

Personally, I say lock them both in a vault.
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Posted 16 March 2017 - 12:55 AM

The big deal is his refusal to release them, and the fact that he pays so little in taxes(which is an obvious revenue problem but not something you can pin on those simply taking advantage of a flawed system). I don't think many anti-Trump folks thought there'd be a smoking gun there, just more confirmation that he's a rich sumbitch who games the system and yet managed to be our pRez...pretty much just as astonishing as Putin's rise in Russia...
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Posted 16 March 2017 - 02:25 AM

The big deal is his refusal to release them, and the fact that he pays so little in taxes(which is an obvious revenue problem but not something you can pin on those simply taking advantage of a flawed system). I don't think many anti-Trump folks thought there'd be a smoking gun there, just more confirmation that he's a rich sumbitch who games the system and yet managed to be our pRez...pretty much just as astonishing as Putin's rise in Russia...

Everyone who has the ability "games the system" or they pay too much in taxes. For 2005 he paid about 24% of his income in taxes what do you think his percentage should be and why? 


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 03:04 AM

I won't fault the rich for taking advantage of what's available to them, tho I'd say that they, themselves(or thru their reps) put those loopholes in place, so maybe I will fault them for that. All the wealthy and all the Corps. should be paying a "fair share" into the public coffers and not be afforded the loopholes we have now. Repubs decry deicits, yet they shower the wealthy with tax cuts and tax breaks. The %age is arguable, the legitimized "gaming" is more the real issue. The rich and corps pay far less than in the past, exactly because they have turned the system to their advantage...
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Posted 16 March 2017 - 03:23 AM

I won't fault the rich for taking advantage of what's available to them, tho I'd say that they, themselves(or thru their reps) put those loopholes in place, so maybe I will fault them for that. All the wealthy and all the Corps. should be paying a "fair share" into the public coffers and not be afforded the loopholes we have now. Repubs decry deicits, yet they shower the wealthy with tax cuts and tax breaks. The %age is arguable, the legitimized "gaming" is more the real issue. The rich and corps pay far less than in the past, exactly because they have turned the system to their advantage...

 

Most of the tax breaks the rich get are designed to modify behavior.  Do something that benefits society or something the government wants you to do and you are rewarded.  That's why they are in there.  Also tax breaks to stimulate the economy.  Remember the rich start out paying a higher percentage of their earnings as tax thanks to the progressive rates and also the AMT.



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 03:48 AM

The lefty conspiracy theory on this is that Trump himself released what was a partial tax return with no evidence he did anything wrong and also not showing where his income comes from.

 

I suspect the reason he is hiding them is that he doesn't want people picking through what he gets income from, versus that hes not paid enough taxes. Its easier to claim no conflict of interest when no one can see where your money comes from.


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 01:21 PM

The 2005 Tax Return has been available for some time.  It's not news.  Bits and pieces of it, including the bottom line were reported on as early as 2015.  It was submitted for a NJ project as evidence.  https://www.wsj.com/...axes-1458249902



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Posted 19 March 2017 - 04:02 PM

Trump says he's being audited, but if it were going any further than that, he may not know. If the Criminal Investigation Division is looking at someone's taxes, it's up to them as to whether or not the advise the taxpayer. Usually they don't. If CID thinks it rises to a criminal level, they refer it to the Department of Justice. The DOJ decides whether or not to take the matter further.

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