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#1 Three Eyes

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 01:09 AM

I don't see where this has been posted so here it is. Imagine if this had happened!!

 

 

RUSH Turned Down Las Vegas Arena Residency Offers After 'R40' Tour
 
posted by Andrew Magnotta @AndrewMagnotta -  Jan 14, 2020

 

Rush had multiple chances to cash in and continue playing live after the conclusion of its 'R40' tour, but the band never took the bait, according to a concert promoter.
 
The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports that the revelation came a few months ago during a conversation between reporter John Katsilometes and AEG Live senior vice president Bobby Reynolds.
 
Katsilometes joked that he was hoping Rush would come out of retirement and book a residency, like many other classic rock acts have.
 
Reynolds replied: "Rush was my first concert. I put every kind of damn offer you can put in front of Rush."
 
He clarified that the attempt to negotiate came in late-2015 to early-2016. The idea was that Rush would play Vegas's T-Mobile Arena, between four and six weekends, a year.
 
"Las Vegas would have been the only place you could see Rush, and I think it would have been incredible," Reynolds reportedly said. "I know their popularity, and their fans are all over North America and Canada. You look at that opportunity now — we'll never know what it would have meant."
 
While 'R40' did not come with the headline-grabbing "farewell tour" announcement, Rush tacitly acknowledged throughout that it was likely the band's last go-around.
 
It was understood that the three band members were growing tired of leaving their families for tour. Drummer Neil Peart, in particular, was also battling back problems at the time that made it difficult to perform up to his standards.
 
Peart died last Tuesday of brain cancer. Based on Rush's statement on the tragic loss, the drummer would have learned of his diagnosis sometime in 2016.
 
Peart reportedly stopped playing drums in retirement but remained closed with band mates Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee.
 
Lifeson and Lee suggested this summer at a fan Q&A that they might work together again, but Lifeson has expressed little interest in touring again, noting his own struggles with arthritis.
 
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Hey there goes Alex. He's loaded with money. Wow he's really set himself up great.


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 02:14 AM

I remember hearing the rumors about this, then. Today, we know why it didn't happen. Why it couldn't happen.


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 02:14 AM

Reynolds replied: "Rush was my first concert. I put every kind of damn offer you can put in front of Rush."

 

I have a vision of this poor man pushing a wheelbarrow full of cash up Neil's driveway.


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 10:19 AM

What Neil said toward the end of Beyond the Lighted Stage suggests that he was no longer physically capable of playing to the standard he expected anyway.

 

They finished while it was still good. I guess they could have carried on with Taylor Hawkins set up next to Neil, similar to what the Moody Blues did, but it wouldn’t have looked or felt right.


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 01:57 PM

Clearly the money might have pushed them to do something like this had Neil been well.  I do think playing live on a large scale tour might not be something we ever see even from Geddy/Alex, though it would not surprise me if they did a tribute concert for charity or collaborating with Neil again using some leftover lyrics of his.  For now, a prolonged period of mourning I am sure.  This was rough on all of them in the Rush camp.


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 05:38 PM

Playing a residency in Vegas seems it would have been a bit antithetical to Peart's constitution, no?


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 06:35 PM

Playing a residency in Vegas seems it would have been a bit antithetical to Peart's constitution, no?

 

Well given his condition and his earlier tendinitis certainly.  The lack of travel would have not held his interest, but it would have been easy to do for all of them if they all were in good health.  The key to touring is that there are a lot of fixed costs to put on these productions.  Without hauling all of that around the world, they save a ton of money.  They could have multiple nights off, only playing Thursday, Friday, Saturday perhaps for a few weeks and get in enough "tour dates" to pay off all of those fixed costs and make a boatload of cash.  The model seems to work well for older bands whose fans will travel to them.  The pressures of touring is that you only really make a lot of money when you can play multiple nights and back-to-back nights.  So for older bands, even younger bands, this is a good way.


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:26 PM

Well given his condition and his earlier tendinitis certainly.  The lack of travel would have not held his interest, but it would have been easy to do for all of them if they all were in good health.  The key to touring is that there are a lot of fixed costs to put on these productions.  Without hauling all of that around the world, they save a ton of money.  They could have multiple nights off, only playing Thursday, Friday, Saturday perhaps for a few weeks and get in enough "tour dates" to pay off all of those fixed costs and make a boatload of cash.  The model seems to work well for older bands whose fans will travel to them.  The pressures of touring is that you only really make a lot of money when you can play multiple nights and back-to-back nights.  So for older bands, even younger bands, this is a good way.

 

I guess I'm talking more about his moral code - seems like Peart would be ethically against such a move.


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Posted 23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM

Playing a residency in Vegas seems it would have been a bit antithetical to Peart's constitution, no?


Amen,and if you need further proof see the YouTube of Carbon, er, Diamond Dave's. But let me give ya an ear bleach warning first.

"Can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing, I ain't pretty, and my legs are thin.

But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to."

 

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

 

 

 


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Posted 24 January 2020 - 01:30 PM

I don't think Rush ever wanted to be a TV act or a lounge act.

 

I kind of remember Geddy saying that's why we never saw Rush on SNL or other TV shows, they didn't want to be that band.

 

 

But maybe at the end of the run doing something in Vegas would have worked for them, if it could be handled 'properly'. Not like a circus and more like a top end show. 


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Posted 24 January 2020 - 03:13 PM

Amen,and if you need further proof see the YouTube of Carbon, er, Diamond Dave's. But let me give ya an ear bleach warning first.

 

I've seen a residency or two.  I'll say that these things are handled well.  They are rock concerts, on a theater level.  Definitely not a "lounge act".  Sound is awesome, way better than anything you've seen in a hockey hall.  Visuals can be catered for maxium impact.  The whole tour sets up in this place.  It needn't be portable, having to be trucked around the globe.  It opens up a lot of options creatively.


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Posted 26 January 2020 - 12:09 AM


I've seen a residency or two. I'll say that these things are handled well. They are rock concerts, on a theater level. Definitely not a "lounge act". Sound is awesome, way better than anything you've seen in a hockey hall. Visuals can be catered for maxium impact. The whole tour sets up in this place. It needn't be portable, having to be trucked around the globe. It opens up a lot of options creatively.


Handled well,I don't doubt. If FL would permit the Indians to run full table games instead of just cards and slots, I could see it happening at the Hard Rock venues here, and very well done too. I was merely commenting to the earbleach of Mr. Roth, having been subjected to such via a post on the Vegas Message Board.

"Can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing, I ain't pretty, and my legs are thin.

But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to."

 

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

 

 

 


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Posted 26 January 2020 - 12:46 AM

I've seen a residency or two.  I'll say that these things are handled well.  They are rock concerts, on a theater level.  Definitely not a "lounge act".  Sound is awesome, way better than anything you've seen in a hockey hall.  Visuals can be catered for maxium impact.  The whole tour sets up in this place.  It needn't be portable, having to be trucked around the globe.  It opens up a lot of options creatively.

 

Now The Who has booked a 7 date residency at Caesars in May. Roth, Santana, Foreigner and Aerosmith already have them. So does all this mean it's cool to play Vegas now or will The Who performing "Won't Get Fooled Again" in a casino be just as cheesy as Wayne Newton crooning  "Daddy, Don't You Walk So Fast".

 

In other news...

 

LAS VEGAS -- Entertainer Wayne Newton is being sued by a Las Vegas woman who claims the veteran crooner's pet monkey bit and injured her daughter during an invited visit to Newton's showpiece mansion nearly two years ago.


Hey there goes Alex. He's loaded with money. Wow he's really set himself up great.


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Posted 26 January 2020 - 03:11 AM

Now The Who has booked a 7 date residency at Caesars in May. Roth, Santana, Foreigner and Aerosmith already have them. So does all this mean it's cool to play Vegas now or will The Who performing "Won't Get Fooled Again" in a casino be just as cheesy as Wayne Newton crooning  "Daddy, Don't You Walk So Fast".
 

And Van Morrison does Caesar's Colosseum, 1/31,2/1,5,7,& 8.

"Can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing, I ain't pretty, and my legs are thin.

But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to."

 

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

 

 

 


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Posted 29 January 2020 - 11:39 AM

I remember being a bit disillusioned when I found out that Kiss had started doing corporates. But even Sir Elton has done them from time to time, supposedly. I don't think a Vegas residency would have been so embarrassing.



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Posted 29 January 2020 - 02:47 PM

I remember being a bit disillusioned when I found out that Kiss had started doing corporates. But even Sir Elton has done them from time to time, supposedly. I don't think a Vegas residency would have been so embarrassing.

 

Going to a lot of technical and business conferences you'd be surprised who does corporates.  Current artists (I saw Imagine Dragons 3x that way!) to classic (Blondie, Cheap Trick, etc) all seem to do this.  I think it ends up being an add-on to any tour they are doing.  They look at gaps in tour dates and where they are on tour and fill in the blanks this way.  Las Vegas has changed a lot post "The Hangover" and attracts people of all ages now.  It's definitely "not your father's Las Vegas" right now.  I don't see a band like Rush ever doing corporates because I think anyone that falls into the love it or hate it category won't work in these situations.



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Posted 29 January 2020 - 08:16 PM

Going to a lot of technical and business conferences you'd be surprised who does corporates.  Current artists (I saw Imagine Dragons 3x that way!) to classic (Blondie, Cheap Trick, etc) all seem to do this.  I think it ends up being an add-on to any tour they are doing.  They look at gaps in tour dates and where they are on tour and fill in the blanks this way.  Las Vegas has changed a lot post "The Hangover" and attracts people of all ages now.  It's definitely "not your father's Las Vegas" right now.  I don't see a band like Rush ever doing corporates because I think anyone that falls into the love it or hate it category won't work in these situations.


I imagine those gigs are a better payday too, less overhead. I have a Sting soundboard from a show he did for Oracle from probably 10 years ago now.


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