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#21 Bones

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 01:38 PM

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#22 Greg

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 06:40 PM

We can all settle down, it's just a big fix.  Eddie Griffin has a perfectly reasonable explanation...

 

Comedian Eddie Griffin Defends Cosby, Claims Conspiracy

by ADAM HOWARD

 

Comedian Eddie Griffin lashed out at accusers of Bill Cosby and suggested there was a conspiracy in the U.S. to topple African-American cultural icons in a video interview published Wednesday on the hip-hop tabloid website VladTV.

 

When asked about the slew of women who have alleged sexual misconduct, including drugging and assault, at the hands of the now 78-year-old comedian, Griffin said, "There is a systematic effort to destroy every black male entertainer's image. They want us all to have an asterisk by our name."

He went on to reference the 2003 rape allegations against Kobe Bryant, child molestation

accusations against the late pop star Michael Jackson and reports of excessive gambling regarding retired NBA star Michael Jordan as examples.

"Nobody leaves this business clean," he added.

 

 
 Bill Cosby charged in sexual assault case of Andrea Constand2:53

Allegations against Cosby received renewed attention late last year when stand-up comedian Hannibal Buress referenced them in a performance that went viral. Several dozen women came forward in the months that followed, telling similar stories of sexual misconduct by the comedy icon.

Cosby has consistently denied all the allegations, and has never been charged with a crime before, but he did admit in2005 deposition testimony to giving women Quaaludes as a prelude to sexual encounters. He also denied ever giving women drugs without their knowledge.

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Eddie Griffin performs in concert at MotorCity Casino's Sound Board Theater on January 24, 2013 in Detroit, Michigan. (Photo by Paul Warner/Getty Images) Paul Warner / Getty Images, file

In his interview with VladTV, Griffin dismissed the issue of drugging. "First off you have to remember this was in the '70s. I'm old enough to remember the '70s. The '70s is a different time," said Griffin, who claimed that Quaaludes were frequently used to help people "level out" after cocaine use.

 

The accusations against Cosby span several decades, not just the 1970s, and the case for which he wascriminally charged on Wednesday pertains to an incident which allegedly occurred in 2004.

The district attorney's office of Montgomery, Pennsylvania, charged Cosby with the second-degree aggravated indecent assault of Andrea Constand, a former Temple University employee, at his home just outside of Philadelphia.

 

The charges could lead to a jail sentence of up to 10 years if Cosby is convicted, and he was arraigned later on Wednesday. Cosby's attorneys have said he is innocent of the charges and has previously testified that he had a consensual encounter with Constand.

"Did he rape these b**ches?" Griffin asks rhetorically in his VladTV interview. "Why would you go to the room of a known married man?"

 

 
 
Cosby attorney: 'Client is not guilty,' won't consider plea 'arrangement' 6:18

Griffin compared the plethora of women who have come forward recently alleging misconduct decades prior to someone who reports a robbery 30 years after the fact and pointed out that film director Roman Polanski, who was convicted on unlawful sex with a minor and fled to Europe in the late '70s to avoid U.S. jail time, is still working.

 

When allegations against Cosby first began gaining traction in the last 12 months, some prominent celebrities, most of whom were African-American, did come to Cosby's defense, but, when the number of accusers began to grow, somedistanced themselves from their earlier comments.

Griffin is one of the few famous figures to stick by Cosby publicly now that he has been charged with a crime for the first time.

 

"[Cosby] has single-handedly sent a bunch of brothers and sisters to college. Even if he didn't pay for it himself, he gave them the idea that it was possible," said Griffin who called the embattled comedian a "class act." "And then some p***y is supposed to tear that down."

 

This article first appeared on MSNBC.com

 


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Posted 02 January 2016 - 11:15 PM

Eddie Griffin is really reaching. I think the last thing anyone wanted was for any of this to be true. Dr Huxtable inspired a generation of black men to pursue nerdy careers and thus turn the tide of popular culture. Black men could aspire to be sports heroes, thugs or working class losers based on what was on tv before that. Dr Huxtable was indeed a character. Cosby is and was then likely a rapist. Neil deGrass Tyson and other real people will fill the void.

A lot of the biggest stars led troubled lives. I wouldn't for a moment tell someone not to watch Cosby reruns. I'm not for boycofting art. The Cosby show is still a great and positive example of family television. It showed a normal, loving family. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to watch that. It seems today we not only want to pursue the guilty and charge them. If they're famous we must destroy them. Baseball's hall of fame is full of reprehensible people and Pete Rose isn't allowed in.

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 11:22 PM

For sure, but on top of the completely absurd proposition he's offering here, he says that there is a mechanism to destroy every black man out there and went on to mention two others, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jackson.  And at least one of those happened way over a decade ago.  It's paranoia and I'm saying there aren't crazy, malicious loonies out there trying to do shit because of a person's race...but this isn't one of them.  



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Posted 02 January 2016 - 11:27 PM

For sure, but on top of the completely absurd proposition he's offering here, he says that there is a mechanism to destroy every black man out there and went on to mention two others, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jackson. And at least one of those happened way over a decade ago. It's paranoia and I'm saying there aren't crazy, malicious loonies out there trying to do shit because of a person's race...but this isn't one of them.


Definitely. His fame and wealth allowed him to do this for decades unchecked and without consequences. It's more women coming forward that made others feel safe. These are all unique cases and its batshit crazy to say something or someone is behind them all.

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 12:56 AM

I wouldn't for a moment tell someone not to watch Cosby reruns. I'm not for boycofting art.

There's no reason we shouldn't be able to watch that. It seems today we not only want to pursue the guilty and charge them.

Not a fan of Dukes of Hazzard but that show's syndicated reruns were taken off the air, weren't they?

 

Because of a flag.

 

So, why can't another show get the same treatment?

 

Because of a rapist.



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Posted 03 January 2016 - 05:06 AM

 Baseball's hall of fame is full of reprehensible people and Pete Rose isn't allowed in.

 

Pete is a unique case. He bet on baseball as a manager, which opens up all kinds of conflict of interest issues, including the potential influence of organized crime on the outcome of games. Baseball is hypersensitive toward this kind of thing since the Black Sox scandal nearly destroyed their league many decades ago. 

 

From a historical perspective, I too wish that Pete could be inducted into the HoF, but a message has to be sent to anyone who would potentially destroy the integrity of the game through similar means. 

 

If it's any consolation, his ban is a "lifetime ban", which implies he could be reinstated after he passes. 



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Posted 03 January 2016 - 05:42 AM

Not a fan of Dukes of Hazzard but that show's syndicated reruns were taken off the air, weren't they?

 

Because of a flag.

 

So, why can't another show get the same treatment?

 

Because of a rapist.

 

Well the difference there is that it is the content of the show.  You can't escape that.  It's there.  If the flag is offensive, there's nothing you can do.  There is nothing reprehensible about the content of the Cosby show, or Pee Wee's playhouse, though stars of the show had problems.



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Posted 03 January 2016 - 01:04 PM

.......but a message has to be sent to anyone who would potentially destroy the integrity of the game through similar means. 

 

If it's any consolation, his ban is a "lifetime ban", which implies he could be reinstated after he passes. 

As long as NONE of the players busted for PED's EVER get in.

 

OK

 

Otherwise, I don't give a rats ass if Rose bet on games. I'd be really, really surprised if he threw any Reds games.



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Posted 03 January 2016 - 01:08 PM

Well the difference there is that it is the content of the show.  You can't escape that.  It's there.  If the flag is offensive, there's nothing you can do.  There is nothing reprehensible about the content of the Cosby show, or Pee Wee's playhouse, though stars of the show had problems.

Cosby's royalties from the reruns should be diverted to help rape victims then.....

 

Then again, IF the Nielsen rating system is accurate, we could find out if people are no longer watching the piece of shit's show and if not, burn the master tapes.



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Posted 03 January 2016 - 08:26 PM

Cosby's royalties from the reruns should be diverted to help rape victims then.....

 

Then again, IF the Nielsen rating system is accurate, we could find out if people are no longer watching the piece of shit's show and if not, burn the master tapes.

 

As far as I know, there are only a couple of small cable stations that are still showing it. TV Land was the last reasonably large network to air the show but they dropped it long ago. 



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Posted 03 January 2016 - 08:41 PM

All well and good to drop the show, but it does kind of screw his co-stars. (no pun intended).

 

That point been discussed in-forum before.....


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Posted 03 January 2016 - 10:21 PM

As far as I know, there are only a couple of small cable stations that are still showing it. TV Land was the last reasonably large network to air the show but they dropped it long ago. 

 

Hulu has all eps up of The Cosby Show and the show he did after that.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 01:41 AM

Hulu has all eps up of The Cosby Show and the show he did after that.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 04:05 AM

Cosby's royalties from the reruns should be diverted to help rape victims then.....

 

Then again, IF the Nielsen rating system is accurate, we could find out if people are no longer watching the piece of shit's show and if not, burn the master tapes.

 

I disagree.  He's entitled to his royalties.  If he committed crimes, he should be prosecuted and thankfully he is being prosecuted finally.  Art should go on, and those who want to enjoy it should be able to.  This is true for anything.  There are a lot of other people who make royalties from those shows and they shouldn't lose their livelihoods over one asshole rapist.



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Posted 05 January 2016 - 03:27 PM

I also think OJ was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt although he was found innocent.

 

 

 

I do not.  That glove that didn't fit.  I think he took the rap for somebody else......



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Posted 05 January 2016 - 03:54 PM

I do not.  That glove that didn't fit.  I think he took the rap for somebody else......

 

Are you forgetting all the blood found everywhere?  His blood on the scene, her blood in the car? 



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Posted 05 January 2016 - 03:55 PM

I do not. That glove that didn't fit. I think he took the rap for somebody else......


Actually, he didn't take the rap. He's locked up for something completely unrelated.

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 07:46 PM

Actually, he didn't take the rap. He's locked up for something completely unrelated.

 

Correct.  He's in jail for robbery at gunpoint.  Sports memorabilia that he claimed was his (actually it was likely repossessed by the Goldman estate) was being sold at a baseball card show.  He went into the dealer's booth armed with a handgun and took it back.  He was subsequently arrested and convicted.

 

He previously lost a civil case against the Goldman family and has to pay them millions over a wrongful death suit for the killing of Ron Goldman.  He was acquitted in the criminal case.



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Posted 08 January 2016 - 11:32 AM

Actually, he didn't take the rap. He's locked up for something completely unrelated.

 

 

OK, I'll rephrase: he "got arrested, spent all his money defending himself and had his career ruined" for someone else.

 

But I won't say who I think he was arrested for because that would be using CP to commit libel and I try to be responsible.






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