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#1 2220020

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 09:49 PM

So it seems to me that during the intro to Xanadu when Alex is doing the volume pedal stuff that his timing seems to be off with the picking versus the volume pedal, so that you can hear the note being picked rather than the hearing the note go from zero volume to max volume with the swell.
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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:10 PM

I noticed that on one of the first shows and just assumed he wasn't using the volume pedal at all. Thought it sounded odd and wondered why he wasn't using it.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 10:44 PM

So it seems to me that during the intro to Xanadu when Alex is doing the volume pedal stuff that his timing seems to be off with the picking versus the volume pedal, so that you can hear the note being picked rather than the hearing the note go from zero volume to max volume with the swell.


Yup noticed that too. Guessing he isn't doing the volume swell at all and that it's a pedal effect.

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:07 PM

Yup noticed that too. Guessing he isn't doing the volume swell at all and that it's a pedal effect.

 

Ah...interesting guess. I was thinking his coordination was off due to his arthritis.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:10 PM

But after watchin this, it does seem like he's using a volume pedal.

 


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:12 PM

And this, too.

 

 


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Posted 10 June 2015 - 08:07 AM

Wow, strange. He must have decided he liked the picked sound before the swell. If it's a physical dexterity issue he could have gone with a POG-

https://youtu.be/SPRHYdOCduA



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 04:00 PM

What I noticed in Xanadu and maybe a couple of others was that in places in solos where he might do a dual note bend (anchoring one note with one finger and bending a note with another finger), he was doing a single note bend. I thought that bending with both fingers might be an issue for him.

 

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 06:34 PM

Yup. Noticed from that from the very first show. The almost synthy string swell has been replaced by the picked sound; which in the context of that intro is not nearly as evocative or effective. 



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 06:58 PM

Yup. Noticed from that from the very first show. The almost synthy string swell has been replaced by the picked sound; which in the context of that intro is not nearly as evocative or effective.

Agreed. The sad thing is that he seems to be trying to do the volume swells, but his timing is off almost every time.
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Posted 11 June 2015 - 07:02 PM

"Lerxst he slows his frantic pace in pain and desperation

his fleshy limbs, contorted face aglow with persperation..."


...I'm the whole source of everything.


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Posted 11 June 2015 - 07:55 PM

I wonder if he used to hear a click before and maybe they took that away?



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 08:03 PM

I wonder if he used to hear a click before and maybe they took that away?

Maybe. It's possible it's a volume pedal made by some company that he's never used before and he's still trying to get used to it...but that seems like that would only take a few practices.
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Posted 11 June 2015 - 08:21 PM

What the fuck are you guys even talking about?????



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 08:43 PM

"Lerxst he slows his frantic pace in pain and desperation

his fleshy limbs, contorted face aglow with persperation..."

 

7 albums ago how the chords would flow, with passion and precision,

now the sound is dark and dulled by bricking and some shit that rhymes with vision....

 

 

and the sound limps across the board, and the boys MIDI trigger more....


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Posted 11 June 2015 - 08:53 PM

Some are born to play real loud, and keep some clarity,

most of us just dream about recording base tracks clean,

Sadder still to undermix the drums, and over compress the mids,

 

to release a mix that sounds like a brick, our ears ring for thee


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Posted 11 June 2015 - 10:42 PM

You've got a bright future in parody lyrics, grep!


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Posted 11 June 2015 - 11:46 PM

the volume pedal didnt even seem to fukkin function in tulsa

 

heard far fewer mistakes from him during the 2nd halfs of the shows so far

 

some1 needs to warm up a bit more maybe



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 01:40 PM

Yup. Noticed from that from the very first show. The almost synthy string swell has been replaced by the picked sound; which in the context of that intro is not nearly as evocative or effective. 

 

Agreed. The sad thing is that he seems to be trying to do the volume swells, but his timing is off almost every time.

 

Maybe. It's possible it's a volume pedal made by some company that he's never used before and he's still trying to get used to it...but that seems like that would only take a few practices.

 

It's been about a billion years since he played it and he's old. So, it wouldn't surprise me if his timing and dexterity are off. However, he might also be actually hearing it differently. His signal in his ear pieces may be different than what's coming out of the house. With no amps behind him, with the split signals and different feeds for the rigs, the timing could actually be just a tic different.



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 02:07 PM

Maybe. It's possible it's a volume pedal made by some company that he's never used before and he's still trying to get used to it...but that seems like that would only take a few practices.

 

He's started out with Morley but later around the time of Xanadu began to use a cheesy Dunlop volume pedal.  I got this pedal in the 80s when I needed one and saw it on Lerxst's equipment list.  Let me tell you, this pedal was excellent for the type of swells he creates.  In less than a couple of years it became a scratchy, dusty mess.  Even in recent years, the last time they played Xanadu, Alex still has that 80s-90s era Dunlop volume pedal as you can see below.  It's the silver-framed pedal on the left

 

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Given they don't make these anymore, he's using something else.  Could be it.  I can't imagine his innate timing is the issue.  There is no way he can play what he's playing and have a problem with this.






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