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#21 fenderjazz

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 03:33 AM

A few decent British Beers?

A Few???????

Overshadowed by American Craft Beer???????????

Guess that' why the shelves in my local Tesco are overwhelmed by US imports and the British range is just shoved into a corner.

 

Most American craft beers have taken Yurpean ur-beers, then over hopped and over strengthened them to the point where whilst they are initially an interesting drink they are getting to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much by the end of your flagon. Makes you yearn for a good old session bitter or even a pint of mild.

 

Oh, I'm not denying that American craft beers are not European styles.  I'm just saying that English bitters, milds and nut browns, are great beers but they are somehow canonically trapped and because of their subtlety you can't do much with them.  The craft beer revolution here is about making a few good beers but also messing with them, and doing unique things with them.  To do so with a mild English beer would be like throwing barbecue sauce on sushi.  The IPA style took hold here because you can fuck around with it.


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Posted 25 February 2015 - 08:48 AM

What's it say about me that I like my beers strong, thick, dark and creamy???

That you have coffee and beer confused ?


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Posted 25 February 2015 - 11:13 PM

Oh, I'm not denying that American craft beers are not European styles.  I'm just saying that English bitters, milds and nut browns, are great beers but they are somehow canonically trapped and because of their subtlety you can't do much with them.  The craft beer revolution here is about making a few good beers but also messing with them, and doing unique things with them.  To do so with a mild English beer would be like throwing barbecue sauce on sushi.  The IPA style took hold here because you can fuck around with it.

Good old American Exceptionalism.

 

So I guess that British breweries making beers with American hops doesn't show that we can take what others have done to our beers and recreate and improve on it?

Guess I haven't been drinking smoked porters and Black IPAs and Vanilla stouts etc. etc.

 

The rest of the world creates, America fucks with it. Yup, that's how the world works...

 

Here's a few beers from a brewery down the road from me:

 

Cask beers
  • Wild Swan (3.5% abv): white gold in colour, aromas of bitter lemon and spices.
  • Lord Marples (4.0% abv): named after former owners of Thornbridge Hall, this is a classic bitter, with tastes of honey and caramel.
  • Brock (4.1% abv): velvety dark, exceptionally smooth and creamy stout with soft treacle flavours and a full body.
  • Lumford (3.9% abv)
  • Black Harry (3.9% abv): a mild ale
  • Craven Silk (4.0% abv)
  • Warp (4.5% abv): brewed to commemorate the anniversary of Warp Films.
  • Jaipur IPA (5.9% abv): an India Pale Ale, soft and smooth with massive hoppiness and honey which slowly converts into a powerful but pleasant, enduring, bitter finish.
  • St. Petersburg (7.4%, 7.7% or 9% abv): a full bodied stout, chocolaty, malt flavours with a coffee finish and so named because John Morewood, who bought Thornbridge Hall in 1790, made his money selling linen to St Petersburg in Russia.
  • Hopton (4.3% abv): burnt gold English pale ale with hints of citrus and biscuit character, this is a showcase of the Bramling Cross hop
  • Kipling (5.2% abv): golden blonde beer with an exquisite passionfruit, gooseberry and mango aroma, its initial sweetness and full body are balanced by a lasting grapefruit-like finish. It was the first beer in the UK to be brewed with the Nelson Sauvin hop from New Zealand.
  • Chiron (5.0% abv): golden coloured American pale ale with a spicy, citrus aroma which balances tangy fruit with biscuity malt before ending with dry, bitter hops.
  • Pollards (5.0% abv): a chocolate stout
  • Puja (6.7% abv): IPA brewed with jasmine having a sweet, floral taste with a big hop finish.
  • Brother Rabbit (4.0% abv): crisp golden ale with a clean, hoppy aroma and a resinous finish and some bitterness.
  • Sequoia (4.5% abv): American amber ale, smooth and velvety with a medium body with hints of roasted hazelnut, toffee and caramel malt flavours.
  • Bracia (9.3% abv): an imperial stout
  • Calver (7.4% abv): a smooth but powerful imperial rye ESB, deep copper in colour.

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Posted 25 February 2015 - 11:59 PM

^^^
Those beers don't export to here unfortunately. We get your basic UK mass-market stuff plus Brewdog which is Scottish, I believe and Guiness. The most inventive UK imports are Sam Smith and the aforementioned Brewdog.
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Posted 26 February 2015 - 11:09 AM

Looking forward to a couple of San Miguels this evening. Can't beat it.

 

The last British beer I really liked was Long Life, made by a company called Ind Coope. Made a nice accompaniment to coleslaw sandwiches (or porn mags) in my student days. I'm still here 36 years later, so it seems to have worked.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 12:11 PM

As I have got older I have really gone off lager, which means I find almost all American mass-produced beer horrible.  Though that Sam Adams dark stuff is OK.

 

I quite like some American "craft beers" though.  In the UK we call it "real ale" or "microbrew".  Had a pint of barley wine in Arlington VA.  The barman said usually they served it in halves but seeing as I was British I could handle a pint without getting silly or aggressive.  Had to sip it, though....


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 01:40 PM

They obviously don't get a lot of England away games in Arlington VA.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 01:49 PM

They obviously don't get a lot of England away games in Arlington VA.

 

Just D.C. dorks and wonks


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 11:21 PM

Looking forward to a couple of San Miguels this evening. Can't beat it.

 

The last British beer I really liked was Long Life, made by a company called Ind Coope. Made a nice accompaniment to coleslaw sandwiches (or porn mags) in my student days. I'm still here 36 years later, so it seems to have worked.

You sir are a philistine.

 

If I won the lottery I'd move to Southwold to devote my life to worship at the temple of Adnams. They brew a range of beers both regular and specials - including American styles - that would satiate the needs of any beer drinker - except for Lager! If I wanted a lager I'd head out to the Czech Republic for a few,

 

I'd have to learn them about serving beer with a head on it though, they serve it flat as a witch's tit...


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 02:41 AM

Them Czechs know what the fuck to do with a lager. Those we get. Lots of them.
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Posted 27 February 2015 - 04:48 PM

You sir are a philistine.

 

If I won the lottery I'd move to Southwold to devote my life to worship at the temple of Adnams. They brew a range of beers both regular and specials - including American styles - that would satiate the needs of any beer drinker - except for Lager! If I wanted a lager I'd head out to the Czech Republic for a few,

 

I'd have to learn them about serving beer with a head on it though, they serve it flat as a witch's tit...

 

Oh, 'er indoors and I visited Southwold a couple of years ago and had a drink in the pub right opposite that brewery. I think I had a bottled Carlsberg Export, very nice.

 

Let me see if I took a pic of it, I think I did.. yes

 

southwold_brewery.jpg
 


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 11:40 PM

Oh, 'er indoors and I visited Southwold a couple of years ago and had a drink in the pub right opposite that brewery. I think I had a bottled Carlsberg Export, very nice.

 

Let me see if I took a pic of it, I think I did.. yes

 


 

Bloody Philsitine!!!

 

Should've had a few pints of Broadside - or as the locals call it Roadside, as after a few pints that's where you end up falling asleep...


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 01:00 PM

Canadian beer for me........Mosehead or.......

 

 

 

This stuff, which I find to be excellent...I'll be bringing a few cases home from Toronto this June....

 

http://www.crestonbc.com/kokanee/



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Posted 28 February 2015 - 01:01 PM

 I find almost all American mass-produced beer horrible.  

It is.



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Posted 07 July 2015 - 10:58 PM

I'm a hop head. My new favorite brew is Grapefruit Sculpin by Ballast Point. It's a perfect beer.
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Posted 08 July 2015 - 01:17 AM

Lately I been going to LauderAle, a micro brewery in an industrial area west of Port Everglades.  The places looks like a brewery in a warehouse with a bar and tables.  No AC, a couple of TV's on, and music playing.  The everyday lineup includes a good porter, a session IPA, and a DIPA hop bomb with a 9.2% ABV.  They will have another 2 or 3 rotating taps of their own beer that will be all over the map-saison, cream ale. coconut stout, weizen (which was stupendous on a hot day), plus a another 2 or 3 guest taps of other micros  You can bring in your own food, and sometimes a food truck is parked in the lot that you can order from and get your grub on.  Great people and great brews.


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But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to."

 

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

 

 

 


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Posted 08 July 2015 - 01:21 AM

Lately I been going to LauderAle, a micro brewery in an industrial area west of Port Everglades.  The places looks like a brewery in a warehouse with a bar and tables.  No AC, a couple of TV's on, and music playing.  The everyday lineup includes a good porter, a session IPA, and a DIPA hop bomb with a 9.2% ABV.  They will have another 2 or 3 rotating taps of their own beer that will be all over the map-saison, cream ale. coconut stout, weizen (which was stupendous on a hot day), plus a another 2 or 3 guest taps of other micros  You can bring in your own food, and sometimes a food truck is parked in the lot that you can order from and get your grub on.  Great people and great brews.


This seems to be a common business model these days. Fortunately. Works for me.
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Posted 08 July 2015 - 04:22 AM

This seems to be a common business model these days. Fortunately. Works for me.

 

Lately I been going to LauderAle, a micro brewery in an industrial area west of Port Everglades.  The places looks like a brewery in a warehouse with a bar and tables.  No AC, a couple of TV's on, and music playing.  The everyday lineup includes a good porter, a session IPA, and a DIPA hop bomb with a 9.2% ABV.  They will have another 2 or 3 rotating taps of their own beer that will be all over the map-saison, cream ale. coconut stout, weizen (which was stupendous on a hot day), plus a another 2 or 3 guest taps of other micros  You can bring in your own food, and sometimes a food truck is parked in the lot that you can order from and get your grub on.  Great people and great brews. 

Yep. There are quite a few small breweries like this within half an hour of my house; does not suck at all. Most of them serve as a resource centers for home brewers. too.


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Posted 08 July 2015 - 04:47 AM

I really like Heineken in cans but not so much in bottles. No idea why. I also miss the keg cans. 

I believe I just spotted one of those keg cans at Smart and Final in California.

 

Lately I been going to LauderAle, a micro brewery in an industrial area west of Port Everglades.  The places looks like a brewery in a warehouse with a bar and tables.  No AC, a couple of TV's on, and music playing.  The everyday lineup includes a good porter, a session IPA, and a DIPA hop bomb with a 9.2% ABV.  They will have another 2 or 3 rotating taps of their own beer that will be all over the map-saison, cream ale. coconut stout, weizen (which was stupendous on a hot day), plus a another 2 or 3 guest taps of other micros  You can bring in your own food, and sometimes a food truck is parked in the lot that you can order from and get your grub on.  Great people and great brews.

Seeing these pop up in California too and actually might do our pre-show meet up at one before R40 this month.


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Posted 08 July 2015 - 06:06 PM

Beer is full of vitamin B and E


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