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[SJS]

I'm posting this here, because if I post it on Facebook my wife will think I'm doing it just to spite her.

 

[grep]

I thought this thread was going to be about orgasms.

[Soddy]

Depending on the situation, I imagine going orgasmic could drain your bank account, too.

[grep]

True. But it seems like a lot more fun.

[SJS]

Depending on the situation, I imagine going orgasmic could drain your bank account, too.

It's the verb "drain" that made this absolute genius.

[Planet X-1]

I always thought food was organic to begin with, I guess it`s back to chemistry class.

[pjbear05]

A number of years back Karen and I tried buying the majority of our food at Whole Foods.  Lasted about two weeks before Karen got fed up with the dollar amounts.

[fast eddie]

More power to ya if you want to spend a bit more for something that is arguably better in some way, whether it be lower/no pesticide residue, better nutritional value(questionable in many cases), or simply supporting more enviro friendly growing methods...modern, high efficiency ag is not very kind to the environment, dead zones in the gulf of Mexico but one example...

 

so you and the missus debate over GMO's and "organics"???

[grep]

You need to be careful with Whole Foods - they do sell stuff that's non-organic. You'd be surprised how much. And how much more they charge for same, than your local supermarket chain.

[fenderjazz]

I was very pro-organic at one point until I learned there was no science proving it was better.  Also don't get in the trap of thinking that organic farming is a more sustainable practice.  The two are completely unrelated.  What I do dislike is oiled and waxed fruits and vegetables.  When I want the zest of an orange or lemon, I don't want wax, I want zest.

 

Where I think organic may count is in infants and perhaps people who are allergic to everything.  For the rest of us, it will just drain your wallet.  It's a phony status symbol.

[Feverish Flux]

I think organic fruits and veggies are usually a waste but "organic" meats are worth it.  They're more likely to be treated more humanely (even if just a little), there are are fewer hormones and other additives, and goddammit they just taste better.  Sure, could be cognitive dissonance but I don't think so.  Worth the extra money IMO.

[grep]

We started going there not to be organic per-se, but because my wife developed severe intolerances to high fructose corn syrup and artificial colors... yellow 5, blue 10... etc.   So the solution was to start shopping at Whole Foods for stuff that's not tainted.

 

We found some things, but ended up surprised when reading labels there.....   

 

She's better now, specifically staying away from those additives.

 

Do you guys know that they put Yellow 5 in some varieties of red lipstick???   Go figure. Egg Nog too.... so it's more yellow...

[Always the Winner]

A little pesticide residue never killed anyone...

[fenderjazz]

I think organic fruits and veggies are usually a waste but "organic" meats are worth it.  They're more likely to be treated more humanely (even if just a little), there are are fewer hormones and other additives, and goddammit they just taste better.  Sure, could be cognitive dissonance but I don't think so.  Worth the extra money IMO.

 

Yes, it's interesting you mention that.  Meats are very bland and flavorless these days.  That's because the animal literally gets no space to move around.  You'll see a whole trend towards grass-fed meats as well.  While that may or may not be a factor, the biggest factor is how much moving around the animal does.  If it moves around, builds a little lactic acid up every so often it tastes "gamier" but in beef, chickens, etc, that is a mild but amazing flavor.  Organic farms may or may not do that, though some do.  Grass or grain fed doesn't matter as much as letting the animal move.

[scott14]

Organic has pretty much nothing to do with nutritional value.  No pesticides, no chemical fertilizers, no antibiotics/growth hormones, and non-GMO...  Yes.  I pick and choose my battles as I can't afford an all organic lifestyle.  It's also good to do some research because there are plenty of foods that naturally require less "additives", and therefore aren't worth buying organic.  Other side of that coin, some foods are more commonly heavily treated, and therefore probably worth the extra scratch.  

 

Any way you slice it, our whole food system has become a tragic mess here in the US.

[scott14]

Grass or grain fed doesn't matter as much as letting the animal move.

Not true at all, they're matter equally.  Diet is critical to the taste of the meat.  We feed EVERYTHING corn, because of it high caloric content (fat and sugar) and the mild flavor it imparts to the meat.  Cattle that eat grass taste way different, pigs that eat peanuts, acorns, or chestnuts take on different traits from all of the above, and chickens that scavenge naturally also taste very different.  Combine "free range" with a proper diet and then we're talking REAL flavor.