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#1 Slut Puppy

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 12:47 AM

Today I decided to put the surround albums I own and those on my wishlist in a spreadsheet. One interesting field I'm tracking is price - either what I paid or what the title is listed at on various sites (right now I have a column for Amazon and Ebay, but it occurs to me I should add an Artist's Site column, to remind me to check, in case that is the cheapest choice. Maybe I should check Burning Shed, Discogs and possibly other sites too?

I also track the difference in price if a title is available in more than one format, like DVD-A, BD-A and SACD.

It has been fun, interesting and informative, so far, to analyze the price of various titles, depending on the format and on the site(s) it can be found on.

Anyway, anyone else out there have strategies for finding 5.1 albums?

 

 


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 12:48 AM

For instance, the cheapest I can find Fragile, right now, is SACD on EBay.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:43 AM

Yeah, Fragile is a tough one to find on DVDA since it was released like 12 years ago and as one of the first of that format.  I had long ago resold mine (for a profit) but was smart enough to make a duplicate... ;)

 

As far as my searching has gone in the past few years, there's no secrets to finding material anymore.  Ebay and Amazon pretty much cornered the market, with the exception of direct sales by SW on his site.  There used to be a reseller online that specialized in older and discontinued DVDs and Blurays but can't find them, maybe they went under.  That was another good source. Because of the lack of availability, pricing has generally gone up on surround material.  Try finding a new copy of Porcupine Tree's In Absentia in DVD-A for under $50.  It isn't even that old or rare.  That's one reason I've been spending on new material as its released, it's going to be hard to find later due to limited production runs.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:14 PM

It's gotten harder and harder to find them over the years. I have maybe 60-70 SACD and DVD-A discs.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 05:15 PM

Part of the point of doing the spreadsheet is to get a better sense for when an album is a great deal and to remember to check all the likely sources for the title. At only 50 titles, I still have a ways to go, lots of titles I'm still interested in.
I'd like to have fun in the collecting and not break the bank, if possible. Keeping a matrix of what is out there will definitely help.
Interestingly, the least I've paid for a title was $1.98 and the most, so far, $30.14.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 07:09 PM

Currently tracking a copy of In Absentia for under $40. It's not a high priority though. Rumor has it that SW will redo the surround mix someday.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:28 PM

Hmmm... wouldn't rule out Discogs and Burning Shed, Stoo. Both currently have FoaBP DVD-A, for instance, cheaper than either EBay or Amazon.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:39 PM

Woo hoo!!! Just ordered FoaBP for under $19!!!


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:41 AM

... with the exception of direct sales by SW on his site.

 

Burning Shed is SW's site.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:43 AM

Woo hoo!!! Just ordered FoaBP for under $19!!!

 

It's a great album.  The mix isn't great IMO, but the 5.1 compensates for some of the stereo mix's shortcomings, namely a lack of balls.  I've actually remastered the CD for my personal collection, bringing up the bass and adding some compression to bring up the overall levels.  On the original it's almost like SW normalized the mix and skipped mastering.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 03:47 PM

Anyone else have the SACD of Bucky Pizzarelli's "Swing Live!" from the Chesky label? Sonically/audio fidelity speaking it's about as good as I have heard. At the beginning, before the music even starts, if you close your eyes you are front and center at a small NYC jazz club. And the music itself is SO crisp.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 05:33 PM

Reviews point at FoaBP as being among the best PT 5.1 mixes. Been so long since I've heard the cd.
So far, my surround collection is pretty firmly rooted in rock, prog, some pop, bit of metal.
I do love jazz, blues, musicals and the like, so eventually I'll branch out more.
My "reference disc," at this point is Sea Change, by Beck. Division Bell, by PInk Floyd was a recent above-par addition.
Also mowing through some Elton John classics, these days.

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Posted 05 November 2014 - 12:45 AM

Anyone else have the SACD of Bucky Pizzarelli's "Swing Live!" from the Chesky label? Sonically/audio fidelity speaking it's about as good as I have heard. At the beginning, before the music even starts, if you close your eyes you are front and center at a small NYC jazz club. And the music itself is SO crisp.

 

Sounds like something I'd dig daddy-o.


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 12:56 AM

Big mailbox day for me!

 

PT - Stupid Dream

Beatles - First Visit to the US

Elton John - S/T

Paul Gilbert - Alligator Farm

Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde

Bob Dylan - Another Side of


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Posted 07 November 2014 - 08:18 AM

Picked up Steely Dan - Gaucho tonight for $13.98

 

Never heard it yet...


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 02:39 AM

Tonight is a couple of firsts:

 

First listen to Porcupine Tree's Stupid Dream

 

First experience with MLP Lossless format - had to google it

 

On track one - loving it so far, maybe the most powerful 5.1 mix I've yet heard - mega "surround wow," but tasteful


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 05:11 PM

Here are all of my SACD and dvd-a titles:

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 05:26 PM

Can't make out all of those, but looks like there are some great ones.

 

So far, I haven't picked up any pure-stereo SACDs. Tasteful, but distinct surround events are the draw for me.

I may splurge on stereo SACD someday, for the right title.


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:10 PM

I love all of SW's 5.1 mixes - I thought his last effort "The Raven..."  was absolutely stellar in 5.1 - dynamic, but not gimmicky.  Elliot Scheiner did an amazing job on In Absentia and Deadwing.

 

I have not heard his Yes mixes - just too much to spend on these days.

 

The Rush 5.1 are all so.... safe.   Interesting to hear, but I feel that they could have taken more chances and really played with the room on some tracks.  I guess it is a fine line between too safe and too gimmicky...

 

I love the new Opeth in 5.1 (mixed by SW) - though I had to wait for them to replace the original defective copy (some channels were out of phase.)

 

Also, I have to say the 5.1 mix of Dark Side of the Moon is really amazing.  If you can swing a copy of that, it's worth it!  (and I would be interested in the Wish You Were Here, but again, that cash thing...)



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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:22 PM

My current list (a few of these are in the mail):

 

DVD-A Guero Beck

BD-A Sea Change Beck

SACD Another Side of Bob Dylan

SACD Bringin' It All Back Home Bob Dylan

SACD Blonde on Blonde Bob Dylan

DVD-A Balls to Picasso Bruce Dickinson

SACD Reality David Bowie

SACD Layla Derek and the Dominos

DVD-A When I look in Your Eyes Diana Krall

SACD Brothers in Arms Dire Straits

SACD S/T Elton John

SACD Honky Chateau Elton John

SACD Madman Across the Water Elton John

BD-A Goodbye Yellow Brick Road Elton John

Video Unplugged Eric Clapton

DVD-A Invisible Touch Genesis

DVD-A We Can't Dance Genesis

Video The Video Show Genesis

DVD-A S/T Genesis

DVD-A Duke Genesis

DVD-A A Trick of the Tail Genesis

DVD-A 1970-1975 Extras Genesis

DVD-A Foxtrot Genesis

DVD-A Nursery Cryme Genesis

DVD-A Selling England by the Pound Genesis

DVD-A The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Genesis

DVD-A Trespass Genesis

BD-A The Power and the Glory Gentle Giant

DVD-A Dance of Death Iron Maiden

DVD-A Discipline King Crimson

DVD-A Red King Crimson

DVD-A Peace Sells, but Who's Buying? Megadeth

DVD-A S/T Metallica

DVD-A Ommadawn Mike Oldfield

DVD-A Tubular Bells Mike Oldfield

DVD-A Watershed Opeth

DVD-A Alligator Farm Paul Gilbert

Video Play Peter Gabriel

SACD Dark Side of the Moon Pink Floyd

DVD-A The Division Bell Pink Floyd

DVD-A Stupid Dream Porcupine Tree

DVD-A Fear of a Blank Planet Porcupine Tree

DVD-A A Night at the Opera Queen

Video Greatest Video Hits Queen

DVD-A In Time - The Best of 1988-2003 R.E.M.

DVD-A A Farewell to Kings Rush

DVD-A Fly By Night Rush

DVD-A Signals Rush

BD-A Moving Pictures Rush

BD-A 2112 Rush

MVI Snakes and Arrows Rush

SACD Gaucho Steely Dan

BD-A The Raven That Refused to Sing Steven Wilson

SACD Eat a Peach The Allman Brothers

DVD-A Pet Sounds The Beach Boys

DVD-A Love The Beatles

DVD-A LA Woman The Doors

Video Every Breath You Take The Police

SACD Outlandos D'Amour The Police

DVD-A Tommy The Who

DVD-A Liars Todd Rundgren

BD-A Nonsuch XTC

BD-A Drums and Wires XTC

BD-A Close to the Edge Yes

BD-A Relayer Yes

BD-A The Yes Album Yes

SACD Fragile Yes


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