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#21 stoopid

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:27 PM

A god among bass players.

 

6 strings? My mind is blown.... seems so... complicated. What do you do with those octaves anyway?

 

Don't let him fool you - he only has one Squire 6 string guitar and drops everything with an octave pedal.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:27 PM

Don't let him fool you - he only has one Squire 6 string guitar and drops everything with an octave pedal.

 

Oh wait, no, that was me 11 years ago.  lol

 

[ie - poor person's "band"  :P ]


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:05 PM

Mission Position,

A poseur!

I knew a jazzhead who had a six. His solos were really boring - all he did was run up and down scales. I am not as good technically, but play with a lot more soul, if I may say so myself.



grep,

Jaco only needed four. Ditto Jamerson, Entwhistle, Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten and Geddy.

I played a four- and a five-string at a gig once, and when playing the latter started on the wrong string! Very embarassing.

I sometimes think I'd like a 5-string with E-A-D-G-C tuning instead of the low B-E-A-D-G, so I can get up higher for soloing. At present I'm in the bottom octave for grooving/comping and in the top octave for soloing.

But the top guys use the whole neck rather than getting stuck in one octave or another.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:28 PM

My top two strings mostly get played during runs/fills, or when playing a lower string and want to add an octave/harmony (chord).  I'm mostly a rock groove player anyway, so that's perfectly normal stylistically.

 

I also don't particularly understand the 5+ string bass use outside of maybe metal (for the low end) and the noodliest of jazz (for solos).  John Myung of Dream Theater makes good use of a 5 string, for example.  Watching him on live shows, it looks like he uses the low B tuning and reserves using that lowest string for the heaviest parts in their music.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:47 PM

That's my thinking for a 5. Tune to B for the bottom end. Myung... I think the guy from Phish uses a 5 as well... Not sure of his tuning.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 04:26 PM

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 09:39 PM

GARY WILLIS

 

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:53 PM

For me, it (the 6-string bass) ended up being the ultimate way to feed my laziness.

 

I tune it with a high B and low B, so it's very much like a guitar (well, shifted by 1 string).  When recording, that allows me to go between instruments without any difficulties in mental mapping.  It's also easier to mimic a guitar player if he is showing me a chord.

 

I do like to utilize the mid range of the bass a bit, and it's just easier (to me) to get the full range of a scale with that high B.

 

I don't use the low B string as often, but it happens.

 

MT - there is definitely beauty in soul, groove, and space.  Playing on some of JARG's songs have given me the opportunity to work more in this area.  Sometimes, less is really more, isn't it?  There's some real discipline there that I admire - it requires a level of patience and lack of ego that I'm still working on....


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 12:47 AM

For me, it (the 6-string bass) ended up being the ultimate way to feed my laziness.

I tune it with a high B and low B, so it's very much like a guitar (well, shifted by 1 string). When recording, that allows me to go between instruments without any difficulties in mental mapping. It's also easier to mimic a guitar player if he is showing me a chord.

I do like to utilize the mid range of the bass a bit, and it's just easier (to me) to get the full range of a scale with that high B.

I don't use the low B string as often, but it happens.

MT - there is definitely beauty in soul, groove, and space. Playing on some of JARG's songs have given me the opportunity to work more in this area. Sometimes, less is really more, isn't it? There's some real discipline there that I admire - it requires a level of patience and lack of ego that I'm still working on....


Your work on EoE and DL is an excellent case study in grooving restraint.
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:12 AM

Your work on EoE and DL is an excellent case study in grooving restraint.

 

I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not......



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:13 AM

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:59 AM

I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not......

 

It's certainly meant as one. His bass tracks define those songs.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 06:26 AM

I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not......

 

It is.

 

Less is more.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:22 PM

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:31 PM

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:31 PM

^^ Yeah, he's the bloke in the Die Hard movies.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 06:39 PM

I watched Red 2 last night and it was a complete waste of time.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 07:08 PM

^^ Yeah, he's the bloke in the Die Hard movies.

 

No no no. He's a fiddle player who played in Western Swing bands back in the day. ;)


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:12 PM

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:14 PM

Do you even know who Gary Willis is?

 

Yeah man, he played Arnold on Diff'rent Strokes.


Hey there goes Alex. He's loaded with money. Wow he's really set himself up great.





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